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Taking that into consideration, and expandable broadhead wont have as much penetration as a fixed broadhead. I stuck a big 9pt sunday 160lbs entered into the lungs and ribcage and caught the faraway front shoulder as it was exititng. Deer still piled up within 50yds but it was a pain tracking from just one hole..my .02 Do you think if i bump my draw weight up i can make a change? after the shot and found no blood using a headlamp. I took a shot on a spike buck at 25 yrds out...never found the arrow but heard it hit the deer then the brush. I found the arrow with little blood on it at the vanes and but it was covered in flesh/meat and hair. I was shooting from an elivated position at 20ft so I cut yardage and I couldn't have placed the arrow more perfectly.

Angles from tree stands and even the body position of the deer need to be considered.We have a piebald on the farm and would love to see my son or fiance bag this buck, GOOD LUCK MANDI AND BLAIN!!! I'm not saying I'm a stone cold killer but I have a few bow kills under my belt and have had really no trouble in the past shooting through a front shoulder at a deer that was quartering to me. Thx Lost a good doe this morning, and it bothers me to no end.However, I do have some friends that use expandable broadheads and have trouble shooting through a shoulder. After sunset I went back to the place of impact 3hrs. Two days later I took a shot on a 6pt at 42yrds out...sounded like a miss and sounded like I hit a tree... Anyway, the shot was at 10.5 yards, quartering away, went through the rib cage about the ninth and tenth rib and then out the chest.The deer ran off with the arrow penetrated about halfway into the shoulder. Blood started after about 15 yards, was dark, little at first then a steady stream, and got less and less, and then nothing. Many times deer will double back on the same path they took and branch off from there hit the trail again looking for points where it possibly branched off I have seen this happen plenty of times. Pretty sure I heard crashing during the waiting time a few times..coming by from the area I last heard the buck, were spooked and kept looking back that way...arrow was covered what appears to be from a gut shot, due to the pieces of corn on the arrow and stinky film all down the shaft.I even got on my hands and knees looking for blood. Sounds like a lot of these expandables may not have opened which could have been part of the problem. Arrow smelled clean with good blood, but I immediately backed off and will wait till morning. Too many experiences with questionable shots have taught me well. Also if a blood trail is lost look for other signs such as deep bedded tracks, hair, fresh broken limbs or branches that may suggest the deer headed in a certain direction, and kicked up leaves. Left area for a few hours to make sure and will go back to check around lunch to make sure it had plenty of low pressure and time to expire. Must have jerked a tad when I let the arrow a doe at 20yrds the other night hit her right square in the shoulder, found 6 spots of blood 50yrds from where I shot her and no arrow or deer searched all 85acres and nothing, any advice, email me at [email protected] those of you that have had trouble tracking deer I have a couple of suggestions.

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